Fuel Pre Heater Project for 89 Ford Mustang
I built this in the hope that it would help increase my gas mileage. The construction is pretty straight forward. I took about a day to build and a day to install. The Copper parts cost $60.00 and the high pressure fuel injection line was $58.00 for a total of $118.00 bucks! Was it worth it? May be. It was definitely more than I thought it should cost. It does make the car run smoother and have a little bit better power. I also added 2½ ounces of acetone and 1½ ounces of xylene per 10 gallons of gas.
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hi nice video but a preheater would only work on a diesel engine, if you could cool the fuel you would increase fuel mpg in a gasoline car
I didn’t work on my car, perhaps my fuel evaporasion was good enough :-)
What a load of rubbish. You would be better taking the water pipe around the fuel line and not being dependant on the thermostat. You also have no thermal insulation! 10mpg, I doubt it, maybe in your head. Acetone is a waste of time too and producing hydrogen causes a load on the alternator which slows the engine and uses MORE fuel. LEARN how engines work.
pete, prob need to trial this with out the Zylene and Acetone Bro, that will conflict wiht the true figures. Thanks for posting this
I ain’t sure what Pordgect means??
Do you mean a Project?
i had an 85 5th ave i had to put a fuel line cooler on because it was perking in the bowls in the carb. maybe winter would be a good idea but for me it wouldnt work well.
I ask, why not run a fuel line partial through your exhaust taking advantage of not only heat as an expander but the reaction you get when hot and cold substances are moving in opposite directions as found in GEET reactors.
@forfunmx Id like to know that number!?
@IveyMike illl also remind you that hho will combust at 2% hydrogen all the way ypto 98% hydrogen
@IveyMike you can buy electricnic fuel hetaers that do this with a lot better tempreture controlability
id also say between jug(carb) supersoaker (injector) kettle (petrol boiling carb)
there is one that trumps them ALL
ultrasonic humidifiers( ultrasonuc tranducer)/underwater speaker.
these make the same mist as boiling petrol
except one main feature. ITS COLD PETROL MIST!!!!!!.
thsis unit alone runs my car at idle its take 24v at 2amps.
i however use water/meth inside it to suppliment normal petrol.
very tastey power gains indeed
FFS hot fuel vapourizes finer. finer fuel is a good thing hence injectors replacing the carb.
the finer the fuel the larger its surface for oxygen to react wirh
heat on its own doesnt mix fuel. but the transfer of heat from hot petrol to cold air will aid mixture.
basicaly heat likes to travel from hot to cold so in this exchange air and petrol mixing witll be aided slightly
wat sprays liquid finer?, pouring a jug, a supersoaker or a kettle. heating pertol makes it spray finer end of
@IveyMike yes it completely does matter as to plate size as to relative proportions of hydrogen to oxygen. seeing as oxygen collects at the positive plate and hydrogen at the oxygen plate. hence most ppl have the + plate half the size of the negative plate to give you maximum gass production of HHO proportions.
plate size determines gas proportion output and also longivity of water that is being electrolysed
out of hho proportion means your water will degrade a lot quicker
@Jimmy,
“98% oygen hho”
Do you realize that if you actually made HHO, that it is molecular, and thus not a mixture?
When water is electrolyzed it is physically split into 2H2 and O2, meaning it is always a 2:1 mixture when produced. Nothing to do with relative plate size.
Heat doesn’t cause fuel to “mix finer.” Fuel doesn’t burn until it reaches its activation temp. Because fuel has a non-zero heat capacity, a larger temp difference means more energy lost to heat it up.
You talk a lot.
I don’t see why car makers don’t do this. It would be cake to install a small pump to route coolant from an engine out port to a small heat exchanger before the fuel rail. It would probably add only five pounds. A small controller circuit with an injector fuel temp sensor would prevent in-cylinder detonation from overheating. Hell, it would even make tuning easier if it could hold fuel temp constant.
@forfunmx i currently run at about 5litre per minute with a twin cell and pulse width module running at about 20amps. i use a solar panel and run my cell off a seperate battery.
wait untill thermoelectric exhasust become a viable option (BMW VW) 60 - 80% of petrols energy is wasted as heat and when you relsies the potential when you turn this waste heat into eletrical energy (in the ten of kilowatts) you have more than enough energy to not need an alternator, run hho, install elec waterump etc
@forfunmx well depends on application wether your after a hydrogen or oxygen rich mixture of hho gas.
well lemmie have a wild stab air is 20% oxygen, my 1.4 litre engine sucks in about 1.4 litres of gas ever 2 revs so at idle 800rpm thats 560ish litre of air so about 112 litre of oxygen a minute.
vaiably to make any differnce id would say about 10 - 20 litre per minute of 98% oxygen hho will have an nice effect.
so yes tbh more hho than a backyard bodger can make
The viability of hho as an aid for better combustion is not up for discussion, its a proven fact, it works.
NASA patented this fact about 80 years ago.
This is the main problem, this is the reason why twisting the facts is so easy and thousands of persons are being scammed.
Do you know the percentage of hho you need to improve combustion in the piston chamber?
Without this number, all efforts are useless,
I can tell u what this number is, but you are not going to like it…
@forfunmx thats also another point more air = more oxygen but it also means about 80% usless air gasses being chucked in there aswell.
hho can give gas anywhere from 6 upto 98% oxygen depends on the relative sizes of each plate.
hence its viability for both economy and performance applications depend on relevant fueling ratio of the car.
@forfunmx yeah thats a good point i should of pointed out things that increase hp generally decrease mpg :(
except making your car lightweight :D
your both right but talk about different things.
cold air = more oxigen
more oxigen=u can burn more fuel
more fuel=more hp
good for racing, bad for fuel economy
guys your both right… just talking about different things.
cold air=more oxigen therefore you can burn more gas, thus more hp good for racing, bad for fuel economy
@phrygian360 i agree a cold air intake is a good thing. i was merely saying that hot petrol will vapourise a lot more finely than cold petrol. also during heat transfer from hot petrol to cold air will inturn help aid mixing the two ingredients.
i currently do this and lean off my petrol with an o2 sensor spacer and vent in watermeth mix via a custom ultrasonic injector to make meth mist. no pre detonation early bangs or hot engine. its actually runs about 6 degC colder than usual :P
@jimmyhackers well what you just stated is deffinately not the case. you may want to research why people who race pack ice on the intake manifold, keep the fuel lines as far away from heat as possible and install a fuel cooler inline to keep it cold. most guys run laps on cold mornings as well and it is well known that filling up your gas in the morning while the ground is coldest will let your car run best. good luck.
@av8tor17b ill also point out that brake lines use copper tube sometimes
so F U